Nigger -- And other racial terms

[N****R]

Because the topic needs to be discussed, instead of unilaterally decided upon by the moderator staff. We vote on the moderators, and it seems fair we, at the very least, talk about this.

A Note: Some responses from the staff would be helpful.

[Inquisitor]

We don't vote for moderators.

[N****R]

We don't vote for moderators.

We like pulling apart things, don't we?

Well, we do have opinion polls. "How is such and such doing as a moderator? (a) Good (b) Bad (c) Terrible (d) Gtfo my internet"

[Inquisitor]

We don't vote for moderators.

We like pulling apart things, don't we?

Well, we do have opinion polls. "How is such and such doing as a moderator? (a) Good (b) Bad (c) Terrible (d) Gtfo my internet"

If you're going to troll, at least have your facts straight.

[blankles]

Putting my two cents in: if this is the way that racism is being "dealt" with, it's not exactly the most efficient method. Racial slurs shouldn't evoke such a reaction from people. It's giving the "offensive" words too much power.

People are so scared of being racist these days, they're trying to crush problems that aren't there. I find that the people who are most offended by racial slurs aren't even those who belong to the particular race, which is absolutely ridiculous. It goes along the same lines of sticking your nose where it doesn't belong.

Anyways, I know that -my- opinion alone won't much matter, and I still think it's silly that simple words are getting such an intolerant reaction.

On the other hand, I can see where the merit is as well, eliminating issues that may arise, trying to conform to political correctness, whatever the case may be...

Also, to Sideus, this guy's bringing up a legit discussion, isn't he? If you're going to flame him, why can't you do it in PMs? Axe the technical details... : /

[Rook]

Yes. We did have those polls, when the mods were in their probation timeframe.

All of them passed with over 90% of the people voting approving.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, the rest of us staff back Syn on that decision unanimously.

Case closed.

[Ytts]

December 4th, check back then.

[N****R]

Yes. We did have those polls, when the mods were in their probation timeframe.

All of them passed with over 90% of the people voting approving.

Also, unless I'm mistaken, the rest of us staff back Syn on that decision unanimously.

Case closed.

Again, we're missing the issue here. A skill everyone in the tK seems to have developed quite a bit!

The idea here is getting so mad over an idea, or a word, that you'll ban someone over it. Also, i've yet to see the AUP rules change. So... I was banned for no reason. That is, unless i'm mistaken.

[Joe]

You are.

[Rook]

The idea here is getting so mad over an idea, or a word, that you'll ban someone over it.

Getting mad? You obviously don't know the involved parties very well, if at all.

Also, i've yet to see the AUP rules change. So... I was banned for no reason. That is, unless i'm mistaken.

December 4th, check back then.

Since you'd rather play it that way.

[Eos]

Wow this really isn't worth getting butthurt over

[SixStringSamurai]

See, I don't get the 'If you're not ____ then you shouldn't be offended by a word that's long been used against ______'. And I don't think I'm the only one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne_Braden

[N****R]

Wow this really isn't worth getting butthurt over

Agreed. In fact, I agree so much, that I believe my name(s) should be unbanned.

Rook / Web? Yeah, December 4th is fine. Today is the 3rd. So, Syn had no reason for banning me.

[Eos]

yeah i mean you only registered nigger to play a 70s pimp right?

ps I was arguing for the ability to say nigger so I could use the word when talking about shit to Pink and in the occasional joke not so it could be spammed all over the place

[Inquisitor]

Wow this really isn't worth getting butthurt over

Agreed. In fact, I agree so much, that I believe my name(s) should be unbanned.

Rook / Web? Yeah, December 4th is fine. Today is the 3rd. So, Syn had no reason for banning me.

Shut the fuck up. Did you really expect something more when you logged in as Nigger? It's the same as logging in as ADOLF_HITLER with KILL ALL JEWS in your profile.

[Soja]

I don't really care, personally. First Amendment and all that. You have a right to use whatever terms you want.

... On your own domain.

TK has rules. Offensive names and room names will not be tolerated. You will be warned, then acted against if you resist. Your transgression can also translate as trolling, besides being offensive, and racially offensive in the OOC, which is also against the rules.

Cry moar, plz. You can't win this argument.

[Crysta]

You ruined your chances of even coming close to anyone taking you seriously when you registered under that name. 

[N****R]

tK does have rules. But where in the AUP is using the term nigger located? Hint: It's not. So, that about brings you up to date on the current situation, and why web / rook have mentioned Dec 4th. All caught up? Good.

Crysta: Who takes who seriously on the internet? Especially, on tK? Seriously, also, is one thing. Making racism worse is another.

[Inquisitor]

tK does have rules. But where in the AUP is using the term nigger located? Hint: It's not. So, that about brings you up to date on the current situation, and why web / rook have mentioned Dec 4th. All caught up? Good.

Crysta: Who takes who seriously on the internet? Especially, on tK? Seriously, also, is one thing. Making racism worse is another.

1. Users of the Keep are asked to keep profanity to a minimum.

Light swearing is acceptable, both in character and out of character. Light swearing includes words "ass," "damn," "hell," "bitch," and other swear words that aren't considered harsh swearing. Harsh swearing is acceptable out of character, when it is censored or not directed toward someone present in a hostile fashion. Harsher swearing is considered to be the words "fuck," "cunt," and the like. Room names and User names MAY NOT contain harsh profanity.

"Nigger" falls under the term "profanity".  "Profanity" being described as an obscenity. "Harsh profanity" most surely includes racial slurs.

edit: Made it easier for you!

[N****R]

tK does have rules. But where in the AUP is using the term nigger located? Hint: It's not. So, that about brings you up to date on the current situation, and why web / rook have mentioned Dec 4th. All caught up? Good.

Crysta: Who takes who seriously on the internet? Especially, on tK? Seriously, also, is one thing. Making racism worse is another.

1. Users of the Keep are asked to keep profanity to a minimum.

Light swearing is acceptable, both in character and out of character. Light swearing includes words "ass," "damn," "hell," "bitch," and other swear words that aren't considered harsh swearing. Harsh swearing is acceptable out of character, when it is censored or not directed toward someone present in a hostile fashion. Harsher swearing is considered to be the words "fuck," "cunt," and the like. Room names and User names MAY NOT contain harsh profanity.

"Nigger" falls under the term "profanity".  "Profanity" being described as an obscenity. "Harsh profanity" most surely includes racial slurs.

edit: Made it easier for you!

Already said, Sideus. The whole problem is that you, and others, consider NIGGER profanity. Fear of a word only continues intolerance.

Also,  "most surely" -- according is to... ?

[Inquisitor]

Racial slurs are profanities. They are obscenities, in the same vein that fuck, cunt, and other words are profanities. Most likely more importantly then not, a lot of people are uncomfortable with such words - be they racial slurs or run of the mill obscenities - for reasons that are probably not 'fear'.

Stop trying to come off as an intellectual for telling us not to be afraid of a word. You deliberately and knowingly broke a rule and went against the whim of a moderator and a room when told to stop. If you can't handle the punishment, don't push the envelope. You got what you asked for, and nothing more. You're wholly in the wrong here.

And I've treaded the line to know well enough when someone's stepped over or not.

[Draigh]

Internet Rules.
"
8. There are no real rules about posting.
9. There are no real rules about moderation either — enjoy your ban.
"

[Xachariah]

Sid doesn't just tread the line, he dances a jig up and down it when he's in the mood. = P I'd listen to him. And that's aside from just looking at that word with an expression of disgust - it's an ugly word, with an ugly past, and however much you try to intellectualize it, humans can't just slice the meanings it's had in the past away (even if black people have reclaimed it).

On another note, you should have listened to the mod when they asked you to get off the name. = / It would at least have demonstrated that you were willing to cooperate and work with people to get shit figured out.

[N****R]

Again, who decided that?  You don't ever wonder why people are uncomfortable with it? Out of all the "racial slurs" why does nigger stand out as the one that causes a group of white people to react so harshly?

I'm not trying to come off as an intellectual. Fuck that. There is no line that was crossed here. Now, if I had entered the room and broke out with the "NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER" -- ah, but no. I just entered the room with this name.

Once more you circle back to the beginning. It's okay, I do it too. So here we go. There is no rule. December 4th, it's hinted, that this will be a little more clear. Until then? What i've done, at the least, hardly warrants being banned.

Draigh - I laughed.

Ix - I wasn't asked anything, I was demanded. It was like she was treating me like... a slave? There is nothing to work out here, of course. People are racist. A bunch of ugly white people scared of the word nigger is pretty funny, though.

:edit: It's also funny that people who will call me a troll will sit here and type responses to me.

[Xachariah]

I'd jokingly resent the implication that I'm ugly, if I were scared of it. = P And sure, she might have come off as a bit blunt, but she'd just told people to stop saying it and then somebody went to the trouble of registering and signing on as the very word she was telling people to stop saying. You'd probably have been blunt, too, if you were in her shoes.