A query to those who still Rp on a normal basis.

[Rosery]

How many real Drow characters do you see? I'm not meaning to put down the people who play Drow that resemble Drizzet what's his face, the wimp and coward who left the Underdark .

However I am just interested in how many people see the actual tradtional Drow stereotype played, evil and cruel, back stabbing,manipulative and deadly. How many are really played the way there portrayed in books and story lines when played in Dungeon and Dragons, in the PC games how many characters do you see played like that? I'm not bitching though I could since I get anal over drizzet clones but I'm curious to see if my thoughts that no one plays them is true or not.

[SnoobieSnooch]

I've seen a few people playing manipulative, traitorous Drow's. Which is cool an all, but i don't really mind, whether they are Drizzt clones or not. It's how they RP that matters to me.

[Rosery]

Yes the RP matters Snew I agree. Its the Drizzet clones that bug me when they start spouting off about how the majority of Drow are like them and how they aren't really bad just misunderstood and at that point I wanna smack them upside the head with the heaviest object I can find and then beat upon them(The character) until they stop twitchin!

[Dalton]

Warcraft II - orcs delight in the slaughter of mankind and sing songs of glorious warfare while mounting the heads of soldiers, women, and children on pikes and sacrificing their bodies to dark gods to complete arcane rituals.

Warcraft III - orcs were just misunderstood, not truly evil! They were being... uh.. mind controlled, that's it! Yeah! They feel bad about being evil but due to misunderstandings with humanity they cannot make amends.

World of Warcraft - orcs are the good guys and just want to live in peace and harmony and smoke pot all day. Humans are vile and hateful and want to eliminate them for no reason.

Discuss.

[SnoobieSnooch]

Lmao.
I do get what you mean, it is annoying when the clones do spout random crap like that. It's like they haven't even looked up the race they're playing.

[Rosery]

They probley haven't, they just go off the books written by the bewb Salvatore whom I wanna strangle, Im a Drow fan and Abel once trolled by pretending to be some newb who was a Drow Male who ruled a city in the underdark. I was having a reaally bad day to begin with and I went utterly ape shit on him at like 2 in the morning for thirty minutes on WHY that character concept was BS before I realized it was Abel XD/

[Lorelai]

They probley haven't, they just go off the books written by the bewb Salvatore whom I wanna strangle, Im a Drow fan and Abel once trolled by pretending to be some newb who was a Drow Male who ruled a city in the underdark. I was having a reaally bad day to begin with and I went utterly ape shit on him at like 2 in the morning for thirty minutes on WHY that character concept was BS before I realized it was Abel XD/

Salvatore is actually pretty accurate in his depictions of the drow. He makes it very clear what the majority of the drow are like, and that Drizzt is the exception (especially in the early books in the series, I haven't read any of the recent ones). It's not his fault that people want to play a male drow who ruled a city, so they completely disregard the rules.

And to comment on Dalton's post...horde rules, alliance sucks. The end.

[Rosery]

They probley haven't, they just go off the books written by the bewb Salvatore whom I wanna strangle, Im a Drow fan and Abel once trolled by pretending to be some newb who was a Drow Male who ruled a city in the underdark. I was having a reaally bad day to begin with and I went utterly ape shit on him at like 2 in the morning for thirty minutes on WHY that character concept was BS before I realized it was Abel XD/

Salvatore is actually pretty accurate in his depictions of the drow. He makes it very clear what the majority of the drow are like, and that Drizzt is the exception (especially in the early books in the series, I haven't read any of the recent ones). It's not his fault that people want to play a male drow who ruled a city, so they completely disregard the rules.

And to comment on Dalton's post...horde rules, alliance sucks. The end.

Maybe. I found his writing to be very bland and boring, it was only to easy to see where the story was going, one could actually predict every event before it happened in any book of his I read and as I said I can be almost fanatical in terms of the Drow and while I won't argue there are good Drow (See Elistree's bunch) there extremely rare. IN truth Drizzet would be hunted down like a dog by the favored of Lolth just so they could offer his desecrated remains to her. Anyway...now Im nit picking over a book..

I made this thread to see if anyone sees I guess the more traditional Drow played on TK.  I know I was talking to my friend who plays an Elf here on TK who literally lives to hunt the Drow and when she saw mine she just about flipped cause it was pretty much the first evil Drow she had seen. So I'm wondering if I am basically the only one >.>

[Moondog]

I RP on a normal basis, (or at least attempt to) and, for some reason, I don't run into many drow. Or dragons. Or anything that would be particularly awesome to fight/flirt/annoy/insult/chat/drink with/to. I keep tripping over 'demons' and vampires, though.

[Soja]

The urge to play a drow is suddenly piqued in me.

[Rosery]

The urge to play a drow is suddenly piqued in me.

Wee more Drow I do hope your planning on playing one that tends to be evil, I think if I see one more good Drow, a clone of Drizzet or any other such thing, I will go on a mass cleansing spree and make a room specifically designed for me to sacrifice the ones I manage to capture >.>...mind you the room wouldn't see much use heh.

[Ball-o-Cheese]

R A Salvatore is a terrible writer. I mean he's not the worst that TOR every vomited out, but he's pretty bad.

Having said that, its not really his fault that so many people are so dull and unimaginative that the best thing they can do is ape his terrible writing.


The fact is, 'real' Drow are like the Hot Topic of the DnD world. They're just... OH WELL FINE I'M GOING TO DOWN AND LIVE IN THE BASEMENT, I DIDN'T LIKE SUNLIGHT ANYWAY. AND IM ANGRY. AND BITTER. AND EVIL. YOU KNOW HOW EVIL I AM? IM GOING TO EAT THIS FUCKING BABY, AND LISTEN TO SLIPKNOT! DID YOU SEE THAT I HAVE A BABY? IM GOING TO EAT IT. _{oh god please someone pay attention to me}

[Elijah]

Warcraft II - orcs delight in the slaughter of mankind and sing songs of glorious warfare while mounting the heads of soldiers, women, and children on pikes and sacrificing their bodies to dark gods to complete arcane rituals.

Warcraft III - orcs were just misunderstood, not truly evil! They were being... uh.. mind controlled, that's it! Yeah! They feel bad about being evil but due to misunderstandings with humanity they cannot make amends.

World of Warcraft - orcs are the good guys and just want to live in peace and harmony and smoke pot all day. Humans are vile and hateful and want to eliminate them for no reason.

Discuss.

If World Of Warcraft actually has pot smoking orcs, I might have to reconsider my anti-wow sentiments.

[Lorelai]

They probley haven't, they just go off the books written by the bewb Salvatore whom I wanna strangle, Im a Drow fan and Abel once trolled by pretending to be some newb who was a Drow Male who ruled a city in the underdark. I was having a reaally bad day to begin with and I went utterly ape shit on him at like 2 in the morning for thirty minutes on WHY that character concept was BS before I realized it was Abel XD/

Salvatore is actually pretty accurate in his depictions of the drow. He makes it very clear what the majority of the drow are like, and that Drizzt is the exception (especially in the early books in the series, I haven't read any of the recent ones). It's not his fault that people want to play a male drow who ruled a city, so they completely disregard the rules.

And to comment on Dalton's post...horde rules, alliance sucks. The end.

Maybe. I found his writing to be very bland and boring, it was only to easy to see where the story was going, one could actually predict every event before it happened in any book of his I read and as I said I can be almost fanatical in terms of the Drow and while I won't argue there are good Drow (See Elistree's bunch) there extremely rare. IN truth Drizzet would be hunted down like a dog by the favored of Lolth just so they could offer his desecrated remains to her. Anyway...now Im nit picking over a book..

He was hunted down like a dog, actually. I wasn't commenting on RA's writing, I was commenting on the information he includes, and he is very accurate. Probably because he's writing for the company that owns the drow, and they edit his work.

But this thread kind of makes me want to play an evil drow now...hmmm...

[Rosery]

Amazing, it's made two people want to play evil Drow.

[Dalton]

There's been a sudden revival of oldies who haven't played in 2+ years. This is exciting.

[Xachariah]

I'd rather play an evil or neutral drow than a good one. = Y Even my neutral would be paranoid.

[Soja]

I'd play a drow who left the Underdark because of his perception of the tyranny of the matriarchial system, but he'd still be pretty fucking evil. Stab-a-baby-in-the-eye evil.

[Rosery]

Again that whole concept of Evil bothers me...I see the odd "Evil" drow around but they post as if there character thinks what there doing is evil and I just find that annoying. Good and Evil are points of view,perspectives and nothing else. Thus why wars,disagreements and such happen, one side thinks there good and the other evil. No one thinks of themselves as evil.

Nyeh moving along I welcome other people to make evil Drow, would be a nice addition to the keep, some normal powered villains.

[Moondog]

"Good" and "Evil" are NOT 'matters of perspective' in Dungeons and Dragons, where they come from. They are concrete, tangible forces that make up the very universe, not to mention entire planes of existence.

Both Good and Evil actions have actual physical effects on the world itself, not to mention the people within it.  In many cases, people are on the record (in the flavor text, most noticably on the stuff about Gods and their servants) as actively thinking of themselves as "Evil" or at very least, praying for their hearts "to be filled with hatred" among other things.

Evil is Evil. You can walk up to it and touch it in Dungeons and Dragons. Hell, you can cast Plane Shift and move yourself to a plane built upon it - It's not just "a matter of viewpoints."

[Dalton]

"Good" and "Evil" are NOT 'matters of perspective' in Dungeons and Dragons, where they come from. They are concrete, tangible forces that make up the very universe, not to mention entire planes of existence.

Both Good and Evil actions have actual physical effects on the world itself, not to mention the people within it.  In many cases, people are on the record (in the flavor text, most noticably on the stuff about Gods and their servants) as actively thinking of themselves as "Evil" or at very least, praying for their hearts "to be filled with hatred" among other things.

Evil is Evil. You can walk up to it and touch it in Dungeons and Dragons. Hell, you can cast Plane Shift and move yourself to a plane built upon it - It's not just "a matter of viewpoints."

This is so quoted for epic truth.

[Jason Baane]

I do not see too many emo elves. I do, however, see my fair share of pansy elves.

What bothers me most about them whenever I do see them, however, is that their magic is never the classical type of arcane arts that require any sort of mental thought, somatic, vocal, or material component/s. They're just pseudo-psionics that tend to open a black hole at will. But that's a problem that tends to span over the whole of The Keep, not just elves.

[CBK]

I think playing a race that goes against the norm is a good thing. It means you have the imagination to NOT make a cookie-cutter character. "I'm a Drow, I have to be evil and wicked." There have been plenty of evil Drow playing on the Keep, it gets boring.

R.A. Salvatore's description of the Drow is very accurate, actually, as was said earlier..It has to be. As far as the idea that Drizzt was a pussy..I'd have to disagree, as Drizzt did defeat every Drow who came to kill him. He even went back into the Underdark, and killed even more Drow. Past just physical prowess, he had the testicular fortitude to say "F this. I don't want to be like every other Drow out there, I'm leaving." Even knowing he'd more than likely be hunted down, and anyone he ever cared about as well.

In conclusion, I think you're boring.

[Dalton]

In conclusion, I think you're boring.

Says the kid with a Drizzel clone.

Edit: to add onto that, I'd venture to say you're a crappy roleplayer just based on what you said.

Why is that?

Because you think that in order to play a unique character you have to completely defy the standards. You are obviously not capable of playing an evil drow and making it unique, so in order to stand out and not be cookie cutter you NEED to completely defy their racial alignment. A good roleplayer could adhere to a race's traits properly without looking like a cookie cutter character, and I happen to know several drow players who would agree with me.

Enjoy playing your Drizzel.

[Rosery]

"Good" and "Evil" are NOT 'matters of perspective' in Dungeons and Dragons, where they come from. They are concrete, tangible forces that make up the very universe, not to mention entire planes of existence.

Both Good and Evil actions have actual physical effects on the world itself, not to mention the people within it.  In many cases, people are on the record (in the flavor text, most noticably on the stuff about Gods and their servants) as actively thinking of themselves as "Evil" or at very least, praying for their hearts "to be filled with hatred" among other things.

Evil is Evil. You can walk up to it and touch it in Dungeons and Dragons. Hell, you can cast Plane Shift and move yourself to a plane built upon it - It's not just "a matter of viewpoints."

In DnD yes they are set points but I just do not see a Drow cackling about being Evil, I highly doubt as a point of refrence the Drow hunting Drizzet think they are doing something bad or wrong, they see what they are doing as right. I guess what I was getting at as more opposed to the Good/Evil thing was the "I know what Im doing is wrong but Im going to do it anyway and laugh about it" sort of stuff it just bothers me. In DnD Good and Evil are set things that make up the universe yes okay I won't argue with you there, btu would you concede to the point that the Evil side don't actively think there doing something wrong? I mean I just do not see say to stick to this thread, the Priestess of Lolth sacrificing an Elf and going "Oh gee what I'm doing is wrong".