A query to those who still Rp on a normal basis.

[Moondog]

I'll concede the point that some don't see what they're doing as wrong. Others, however (most notably cultists - See Asmodeus' or Orcus' cults) actively shout about being Evil (and Lawful or Chaotic, as applicable), it depends on the source. 

Many prayers to Erythnul include the words "Evil,"  "Murder," (as opposed to killing, implying they *know* what they're doing is 'wrong') and other such unpleasant words.

Certainly, not all Drow are going to sit on a pile of infants and cackle about how evil they are - Llolth doesn't encourage this (per se), so they don't. Were the Drow to worship Erythnul, it'd be a different thing entirely. =P

[Lorelai]

I think playing a race that goes against the norm is a good thing. It means you have the imagination to NOT make a cookie-cutter character. "I'm a Drow, I have to be evil and wicked." There have been plenty of evil Drow playing on the Keep, it gets boring.

R.A. Salvatore's description of the Drow is very accurate, actually, as was said earlier..It has to be. As far as the idea that Drizzt was a pussy..I'd have to disagree, as Drizzt did defeat every Drow who came to kill him. He even went back into the Underdark, and killed even more Drow. Past just physical prowess, he had the testicular fortitude to say "F this. I don't want to be like every other Drow out there, I'm leaving." Even knowing he'd more than likely be hunted down, and anyone he ever cared about as well.

In conclusion, I think you're boring.

Drizzt didn't leave the Underdark because he didn't want to be like the other drow. It wasn't a fucking popularity contest, he left because his moral code would not allow him to participate in that society...and why is that? Because he is one of the few drow who aren't evil.

And there have not been plenty of evil drow in the keep, unless they've been hiding from me. They're all the 'I'm a good drow who has turned against my people's evil ways'. There are exceptions to this, and everyone person I've ever talked to who has played a drow that isn't of a 'good' alignment has said they are doing this to be different from all of other drows in The Keep.

In conclusion, your pie is mine.

[Rosery]

Okay people let us not turn this into a flame war or any such thing, honestly here I was just curious if I had missed all these other Drow around the keep because I never see any House rooms up, I don't see Drow profiles very often unless you count the odd one in the slave sale which seriously makes me wanna upchuck my cookies on a good day at best. As for CBK...seriously stop taking this as some personal shot at you or whatever or as if your way of role playing is any better than anyone else, it isn't. That is one thing I will never stop being bothered by someone acting as if the way they Role play is better than someone else, when on a freeform site it's like "...Kay...you can do or be anything thus no one is "better" ".

Anyway I know it might seem like I was saying that to start but I don't think I'm better than anyone for playing an Evil Drow or whatever, I just find the good ones annoying and they bug me alot but so do Canon characters for that matter, doesn't make me better than them...Anyway back to the topic at hand.

I suppose that is true Moon, I guess I've spent to much time thinking about Good and Evil lately, It's been so long since I played a good old fashioned pen and paper DnD game it's scary, the last one I did was a custom Campaign a friend of mine set up, other than that it's been all the PC games. Anywho I just don't see a Drow Matron thinking killing another House of Drow as wrong, they see it as perfectly reasonable,good and a right way to live. Just my view on it anyway since it's a fantasy world and you can't exactly ASK one there's no way to be sure if I am right or wrong.

[Moondog]

Rosery? Thank you for being the *most* reasonable person I've ever 'spoken to' about alignment/how good/evil is seen in D&D.

[CBK]

To Dalton: I don't play a Drow, actually. Nor did I say you HAD to play against the norm to play a unique character. Though, I suppose it served your purposes to assume I did.

Your assumption on my role playing 'skill', and the characters I play, is very amusing considering you know nothing about me. It at least shows me the kind of person you are.

[Dalton]

Your assumption on my role playing 'skill', and the characters I play, is very amusing considering you know nothing about me. It at least shows me the kind of person you are.

Your assumption that you know the person I 'are' is asuming. It shows the assumptor that you are to assume such a thing based on nothing.

[Rosery]

Rosery? Thank you for being the *most* reasonable person I've ever 'spoken to' about alignment/how good/evil is seen in D&D.

See the only problem with the forums, is I can't tell if your being honest or not xD So for the sake of the interwebz and keeping a level head, Im gonna go ahead and say thanks!

[Moondog]

I'm being totally honest.

[Lorelai]

Rosery? Thank you for being the *most* reasonable person I've ever 'spoken to' about alignment/how good/evil is seen in D&D.

I agree with this and with Rosery's thoughts on alignment as well. I would like to amend though that whoever mentioned that good and evil are tangible things in these worlds is also correct. There are spells like 'protection against evil' after all. But Rosery is right, the drow matron wouldn't see her actions as evil, she would see them as perfectly reasonable and would, in fact, be doing what is expected of her in her society. The other drow would think she'd gone crazy if she didn't destroy the other house...though that would be an awesome idea if she really wanted to mess with the other matron's heads.

Let's all play drow now. They're so much fun.

[Rosery]

Rosery? Thank you for being the *most* reasonable person I've ever 'spoken to' about alignment/how good/evil is seen in D&D.

I agree with this and with Rosery's thoughts on alignment as well. I would like to amend though that whoever mentioned that good and evil are tangible things in these worlds is also correct. There are spells like 'protection against evil' after all. But Rosery is right, the drow matron wouldn't see her actions as evil, she would see them as perfectly reasonable and would, in fact, be doing what is expected of her in her society. The other drow would think she'd gone crazy if she didn't destroy the other house...though that would be an awesome idea if she really wanted to mess with the other matron's heads.

Let's all play drow now. They're so much fun.

Well thank you both then, I appreciate the compliments and nuu Lor you can't play a Drow nao D: You must run your Rp so that I can come and terrorize you all xD. I kid...I kid << Somewhat. And actually I think I read somewhere of some major house in the FR Lore doing something like that Lore, going totally against what was expected normally of them, making it seem like she had gone insane and luring her enemies into trap,after trap,after trap. I don't remember where I read it though.

[Lorelai]

Rosery? Thank you for being the *most* reasonable person I've ever 'spoken to' about alignment/how good/evil is seen in D&D.

I agree with this and with Rosery's thoughts on alignment as well. I would like to amend though that whoever mentioned that good and evil are tangible things in these worlds is also correct. There are spells like 'protection against evil' after all. But Rosery is right, the drow matron wouldn't see her actions as evil, she would see them as perfectly reasonable and would, in fact, be doing what is expected of her in her society. The other drow would think she'd gone crazy if she didn't destroy the other house...though that would be an awesome idea if she really wanted to mess with the other matron's heads.

Let's all play drow now. They're so much fun.

Well thank you both then, I appreciate the compliments and nuu Lor you can't play a Drow nao D: You must run your Rp so that I can come and terrorize you all xD. I kid...I kid << Somewhat. And actually I think I read somewhere of some major house in the FR Lore doing something like that Lore, going totally against what was expected normally of them, making it seem like she had gone insane and luring her enemies into trap,after trap,after trap. I don't remember where I read it though.

I can play all sorts of things now because we can have multiple characters logged in! Whee!

[Dalton]

Interestingly enough there's suddenly several drow houses/guilds in The Keep. Is it because of this thread, and people suddenly decided to go make some? or were they there all along and I only just now noticed them?

[Rosery]

Interestingly enough there's suddenly several drow houses/guilds in The Keep. Is it because of this thread, and people suddenly decided to go make some? or were they there all along and I only just now noticed them?

I've kept my eye out and I haven't see them, if your talking about House Auvryar that is mine, I haven't seen any other "Houses" Persey but then again I end up getting distracted alot.

[Dalton]

I know there was yours, and another one that just recently startd up, and possibly more... I don't quite remember. I know that I suddenly noticed quite a few drow players, though, not long before I was banned. I'm just curious as to whether they had always been there and I just never paid attention before reading this thread, or whether they actually just appeared because of this thread.

[Ramidel]

http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0044.html

That's all you need to know about Drow characters.
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Seriously, Drizzt was a seriously awesome character. (And yes, I like Salvatore, at least if I pretend the Icewind Dale Trilogy was never written...but then again, it's his first Drizzt trilogy, and he's improved.) The problem is, he's the kind of awesome that leads everyone to want to play some carbon copy of him, and all of them invariably suck.

[Rosery]

Woooow thread necro.