The Super-Magical Logical Hatred Thread!

[CaptainRobin]

So it's no secret that everyone on TK hates this clique or that (furries, people who use anime pictures, modern RPers, fantasy RPers) and it's no secret that a lot of these have more than just one person backing them. It's also no secret that if it exists on TK, it's probably hated-- by someone on TK.

I'd like to turn the podiums to we, the haters, and get some logical insight as to why people hate what cliques they hate! I'd really like to encourage thoughtful insight on this, or even just a miniature vent.

I personally hate those people who put up, in their profile, "LOL I HAET U ANIME PICTURE USERS." The stylizing of the picture should not be the basis by which you judge a character, and quite frankly, I've yet to see any one of you RP above a level classifying as anything but 'extremely fucking obnoxious.' Nobody needs to know how every single pore reacted to my character laughing at your monologue and calling you loopy as a bog-witch's earrings. The only thing you should use to judge a character is a case-by-case basis-- actually roleplaying with them.. There's not thousands of characters; I'd be surprised if TK hit 1000 (assume 100 regular users at 7 characters a piece, that's still only 700) and even then, I think you've got the time to RP with them if you're in a position where RPing with them is a prospective at all. If you judge people based on their pictures in their profile and not off actual roleplay, then kindly die in a fire. (This is also why I approve of RPs that demand sample posts... it's not always up to everyone's standards of quality control, but it is the most logical method.)

I also hate furry haters. You all played and loved Star Fox and you bloody know it.

[Xachariah]

I hate people who get pictures off of Google or DeviantArt and then say "Please do not steal," whether they give credit to the artist or not. I don't... really know what the logic is to put to it, because I feel like it's self-evident, and people often take for granted what they don't go without.

[Moondog]

Elves. They're conspiring against us. All of us.

The barley told me.



(and only Lugh will get this)

[Vivi]

I hate people who have firm demands for post length, be they a limit or a minimum. Seriously I type until I run out of shit to say and don't try to cram more in there. Its usually 1 1/2 para but sometimes its longer or shorter. If I try to make it purposefully longer or shorter its going to suck much more then my original did because I'll be breaking the style I write in best. I understand "Try to reach/be under..." but its the people that flat out say they will not rp with someone unless they reach a certain amount that just tick me off.

[Soja]

I hate people who get pictures off of Google or DeviantArt and then say "Please do not steal," whether they give credit to the artist or not. I don't... really know what the logic is to put to it, because I feel like it's self-evident, and people often take for granted what they don't go without.

My OOC profile is a mockery of this idiotic trend.

Also, editing out identifying marks put there by the original artist and crudely stamping a character name on a picture as a deterrent to aforementioned "picture stealingz."

Let's see. Slave markets, slave sales, slave rooms, slave characters. I've never seen a potentially interesting character idea so firmly and effectively ruined as that of having a slave background has been.

Slaves with demands. Slaves don't get to make demands, not even of the players. If I buy you, you will scrub my floors. If you resist, I will kill you if I goddamn please. It's not as though you can't be replaced! So fucking stop it.

Twilight, Twilight RPs, vampires in general. Especially vampires that don't have ANY characteristics of being a vampire, or if they do, merely the strengths and not the weaknesses. Speaking of Twilight.

Also, furries will burn. Get out of my Keep.

Lastly, fuck all Elves.

[Jason Baane]

I must be out of it. I've never seen any notable anime picture hate movement. Although it is somewhat obnoxious that anime is about the only art style that exists any more, and that you have to dig deeply to find anything else. But that's a problem that carries implications far wider (and more important) than TK. Even then, hate is a strong word that probably goes far beyond my mild frustration at this development.

Vampires (and their infinite variations) are obnoxious, but that again falls under mild frustration rather than hate.

The only thing that really gets my goat is people who feel the need to page spam in a single post, as if they really think their character is so important that their actions need to be spelled out in an overwhelming volume of C-grade exposition so we can fully grasp the majesty of their character. A paragraph is fine. Two paragraphs is fine. Three paragraphs can get obnoxious depending on circumstance, but that's fine. When you get further than that on a regular basis, however, it becomes disrespectful self masturbatory attention whoring. Some of us work for a living, and I don't care to either wait for such a post or to waste my time reading something that could have been broken down into a more efficient size.

Until someone proves it to me, time with the people I like to RP with is more valuable to me than them; regardless of how big their posts are. That's not to say I only RP in my little clique. While I keep most of my interaction in a single room, I do my best to make people feel welcome within the limited capabilities of my character (no real travel power, so my characters can't really rapidly pass through great distances to interact with people.) But nine para intros followed by six para posts are nothing but disruptive.

[Web Janitor]

There's not thousands of characters; I'd be surprised if TK hit 1000 (assume 100 regular users at 7 characters a piece, that's still only 700) and even then...

There are 8952 profiles on tK that have been logged into at least once this month. This is because tK is active 24/7, so the 200 or so regulars at your timeframe needs to be multiplied by the people who are active during other times. Just a side note.

[SilverStreak]

I really can't stand players that have 'availability requirements' built right into their profile and are never available themselves.

i.e. "Must have <instant messenging service>, and be available <x> times per week."

I RPed with one such person, and she was either never online, busy with another RP, or away and unresponsive.

I think people need to stop overextending themselves... or automatically expecting a continuing engagement for that matter.

Is it so wrong to wander into a particular setting, interact with a character for a few hours, then disappear without ever expecting to continue again? I mean I'm all for plot-driven, long-term RP, but sometimes I just don't want the committment. With some of these players it's like you're entering into a contract just to play (which is why I usually gloss over them). It's absurd in my opinion.

If I wanted a 24/7 contractual engagement for something I will only enjoy a few hours a week, I'd just get cable.

[Dalton]

Coming from a person who often roleplays as a furry character...

I dislike most other furries. There are two main reasons for this.

1. Most furries seem to have this idea that playing a weird race is creativity. Playing a person that acts like a boring, every day, two dimensional human with no unique qualities is boring. Playing that exact same character and giving him zigzagged fur, wings, three tails, and fire breath does not make him any more interesting. It makes him a fucking freak, even more so when you notice that these characters never have to deal with the individual quirks or drawbacks of their species. Oh sure, they're quick to point out that they can see in the dark, smell 10,000,000 times more acutely than you, and their pelt keeps them warm in the winter... but do they ever suffer from heat exhaustion in blazing summer days? Does the sense of smell ever get overwhelmed by strong odors and thus become even more worthless than a human's sense? No, never. I know for me, with my weak night vision, it sucks when a light suddenly goes on. If you have 'perfect' night vision, it would be straight up BLINDING to have that happen to you. But I digress, I've beaten this point to the ground.

2. Simply put, I feel 90% of furry characters out there are just as much a cheap, blatant vehicle to sexual RP as the slaves. While I have nothing against all that stuff (though I wish they'd keep it to appropriate chats MADE for sex RP and not come to clean sites...), these are not people I want to play with. Nor do I want them giving me a bad name.

[SilverStreak]

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[Dalton]

Coming from a person who often roleplays as a furry character...

Oh, right, that must that furry character that I don't have... ?

/whois SilverStreak
/whois Tim`Dorel
/whois Jack-Terrier-Dog-Genius
/whois PunTroll (for the lulz)

If one of them qualifies as a 'furry' I'll gladly refund you my dignity.

You're a dumbass.

[KitDreamer]

I hate people who don't fucking read the rules of the site.
and thus think they don't apply to them.

i also hate mod corruption

and i hate mikail for booting me and sleeping with my mother and never calling her again. I'LL SEE YOU IMPEACHED YOU BASTARD.

[KitDreamer]

If I wanted a 24/7 contractual engagement for something I will only enjoy a few hours a week, I'd just get cable.

that made me lol

[Pitch]

Lets see. I hate people who bitch about Para posting of any length. (Unless the person writes mostly useless fluff, that I cant stand. But fluff can happen in two lines)

I think my biggest peeve is people whispering me for RP based on how "sexy" my character is. I get this like EVERY DAY from that Xerra bastard. I'm sure other females can attest to this. Which is why I post their creeper episodes in my Kunkka profile.

[SilverStreak]

You're a dumbass.

Oops. You're right.

Foot firmly in mouth on that one.

This is what I get for glancing at threads while I'm at work.
(and also what I get for having a mild persecution complex)

Apologies.

[Karasu]

Things I hate in a nutshell.

Expectations of out of character content('cept ooc posted). - Wether its post length, time, or flatly someone saying they've been with me a million years and not expecting something like that of me. I don't like being hit in the shins for being myself. Or my age old favorite... The guy who puts in profile that you should not kill him without telling him first: why, who sent you, and what powers you have[metagaming shmuk].

Slaves/related crap. - I do remember a time when it was actually a legitimate sale system of captured people in chat. wtf happened? Now its a cesspool of single use sex drones looking to get their jollies off. No offence but if someone does play a slave its maybe the one place I'd think some expectations should stick(hanging around for a master, seeing your plot through as a slave.)

The Arena. The Mainhall. The... - You get the gist. Rooms are being inducted into the ooc hall of flame. Wtf. IC still exists right? I mean I could honestly care less if the room is flooded with one liners of "zomg u mizzd mi, i swng my swrod @ u 2 keel u!". It still would be a step towards a proper direction IMHO.

Gods. - Trying to negate the right of allowing others to participate their end of freeform should be a restricted meme on the site. The moment someone starts trying to ply someone else and think for them, whats the point of them being here to play? To me its no wonder we have people disgusted enough to leave. May as well let one person just run all the characters uniformly for their need to control things. Inclusive also is the BS about pulling realms over someone to become unilateral in any situation. ; "We're now at the bottom of the ocean Jimmy" --- "But I never consented to a teleport, and I should be allowed to have some say in my character..." --- "Nope. Sorry. Actually... not sorry. I just moved the entire plane of water over your location. Good luck breathing,... and dealing with water elementals that are pissed off. Have a nice death! Bye."

[Moondog]

I hate people who don't fucking read the rules of the site.
and thus think they don't apply to them.

i also hate mod corruption

and i hate mikail for booting me and sleeping with my mother and never calling her again. I'LL SEE YOU IMPEACHED YOU BASTARD.

/kick

[Moondog]

You know what I hate?

I hate it when I say 'Hey I'mma actually RP today" and log into a name and I log into a room and I'm like '...Ehhhhhhhh' and just can't manage to work up an entry post that I'm satisfied with so I just kind of sit there and nothing gets done. : (

[Inquisitor]

I remember I got banned once and my profile got deleted so I just didn't have a profile at all for a long time, and people constantly harassed me for not having a profile. So yeah. That annoyed me. And basically anyone with a well written profile who instantly responds like a retard if you message them.

[Soja]

I think my biggest peeve is people whispering me for RP based on how "sexy" my character is. I get this like EVERY DAY from that Xerra bastard. I'm sure other females can attest to this. Which is why I post their creeper episodes in my Kunkka profile.

Glenn_Aura. Hurricane. That one Tsuryu guy whose name is too convoluted for my recollection.

And then there's this one bastard that every so often appears and spams the same RP proposition macro to everyone with a female icon, suggesting an "adult RP" which I can only guess at as being incestuous in nature because it involves a young man and his "busty aunt," the latter being the role auditioned for...

Things I hate in a nutshell.

Expectations of out of character content('cept ooc posted). - Wether its post length, time, or flatly someone saying they've been with me a million years and not expecting something like that of me. I don't like being hit in the shins for being myself. Or my age old favorite... The guy who puts in profile that you should not kill him without telling him first: why, who sent you, and what powers you have[metagaming shmuk].

Slaves/related crap. - I do remember a time when it was actually a legitimate sale system of captured people in chat. wtf happened? Now its a cesspool of single use sex drones looking to get their jollies off. No offence but if someone does play a slave its maybe the one place I'd think some expectations should stick(hanging around for a master, seeing your plot through as a slave.)

The Arena. The Mainhall. The... - You get the gist. Rooms are being inducted into the ooc hall of flame. Wtf. IC still exists right? I mean I could honestly care less if the room is flooded with one liners of "zomg u mizzd mi, i swng my swrod @ u 2 keel u!". It still would be a step towards a proper direction IMHO.

Gods. - Trying to negate the right of allowing others to participate their end of freeform should be a restricted meme on the site. The moment someone starts trying to ply someone else and think for them, whats the point of them being here to play? To me its no wonder we have people disgusted enough to leave. May as well let one person just run all the characters uniformly for their need to control things. Inclusive also is the BS about pulling realms over someone to become unilateral in any situation. ; "We're now at the bottom of the ocean Jimmy" --- "But I never consented to a teleport, and I should be allowed to have some say in my character..." --- "Nope. Sorry. Actually... not sorry. I just moved the entire plane of water over your location. Good luck breathing,... and dealing with water elementals that are pissed off. Have a nice death! Bye."

Agreed with all of this.

Pie for Karface.

[Devin`Asures]

I squee'd with delight when I saw this thread. Yes, squee'd.

Things I hate Volume 1.

YES. People who use anime pictures in their profiles. I'll damn well judge them if I want to, because (and I've never been proven wrong),  the kind of juvenile hentai-loving trope-emulating retarded teenager cyber bunny or virgin 35 year old who uses them can't RP worth a damn (and if you want my definition of being able to "rp worth a damn", just ask). Generally, I find that the kind of people who are attracted to such images have the brain capacity and literacy skills of a 12 year old. Who wants their character represented in a style that's prominent characteristics are massive bug eyes, beach ball tits, spastically coloured hair, ridiculous costumes or barely any clothes at all, and god forbid, cat ears and/or a tail. I'll tell you who. The kind of role player who wants to replicate that level of idiocy through their pre-school level "role play". I'd rather open a vein than play with one of these morons. Stay the fuck away from me.

RP rooms that require an "audition post". WTF? You losers. I think that anyone with any degree of intelligence can ascertain the level of RP that someone's capable of just by talking to them, reading their profile, and analyzing how they type. All of these indicators combined usually give a good idea of how capable someone is (I'll get to misleading profiles in a moment), and fuck me, if they end up not being "good enough" to play in whatever shitty RP room they're auditioning for, then the moderators of that room should just ask them to leave or *gasp* kick them. And for the record, no I'm not bitching about this because I've ever "failed" an audition post. Normally whenever someone asks me for one, I laugh and leave because that kind of room that requires one isn't the kind of room I'd be caught dead posting in.

Misleading profiles. I'm so fucking sick of seeing these long long long long long profiles full of information that no one really cares about and probably won't read, or worse, well written long profiles that misrepresent the skill of the player. You know what I'm talking about. I'm sick of reading carefully composed spell checked profiles that actually sound pretty damn good, only to actually talk to the person or play with them and find they post like a six year old. What people don't realize is that you can spend hours or days composing a profile, so you can get it looking good, but when it comes time to go live, you've only got about 10 minutes to slap together a decent post (I'm going by the 2 paras averages 10 mins observation I've made during my time on TK) and you don't have time to rape a thesaurus, make love to your spellchecker, or look up pieces of poetry to steal for your profile--I mean post.

There's a metric fuckton more of stuff I want to rant about, so I'll be back.

[Bane]

There are things I at least eyeroll at, or would if I actually eyerolled.

Any para marker/tag in a profile. I've never found a reasonable excuse for the style. Especially if it's 'para only' or some other set length of ultimately arbitrary 'lines'. My interaction options restricted again because of nonsense.

Shitty character qualities and/or especially talents. I find 'controls fire' just as stupid as a bland, stereotypical personality thrown together in thirty seconds. Both can be played well and justified, yes, but they seldom are. They're filler for gaps the person is too lazy or unable to fill. It seems like people think of a list and tack something on, rather than treat it as another dimension for the character to be expressed in. I will grant that in the larger scheme of things, they are less important in making a usable character.
Other examples include any elemental abilities, 'magic' that only goes so far as to consist of poetic words. Empathy (which is far less a supernatural ability than just a trait of group/social animals anyway.) 'Healing'. So on.

Characters who are walking pages from the DSM.

Orphans/runaways/slain parents. Demons. Vampires. Basically any race or status used in a very cliche and unimaginative fashion.

Unnecessary stuff. Really just more of a preference, but I find history, abilities, personality--anything except what's detectable by the senses--to be unnecessary. 'Show; don't tell'. It'd be more interesting to find all that out through interaction.

Forced impressions. When people add commentary or descriptors in their own posts, talking about how sexy, silly, cunning, frightening, etc. they are. It's understandable that someone wants to stress or convey certain aspects of their character, but this is another situation that should be answered with show, don't tell. Make them act as they are normally, and let perceptions do the rest naturally. There are instances where there's little choice, like someone with an air that's simply offputting. Do that only when lacking another choice, though.

Theme songs.

Profiles formatted like some sort of computer database or interview. Especially if the interview attempts to emphasize some aspect of the character (and then multiplied again if it's through the NPC interviewer's reactions.) 

[Pitch]

I think my biggest peeve is people whispering me for RP based on how "sexy" my character is. I get this like EVERY DAY from that Xerra bastard. I'm sure other females can attest to this. Which is why I post their creeper episodes in my Kunkka profile.

Glenn_Aura. Hurricane. That one Tsuryu guy whose name is too convoluted for my recollection.

And then there's this one bastard that every so often appears and spams the same RP proposition macro to everyone with a female icon, suggesting an "adult RP" which I can only guess at as being incestuous in nature because it involves a young man and his "busty aunt," the latter being the role auditioned for...

Things I hate in a nutshell.

Expectations of out of character content('cept ooc posted). - Wether its post length, time, or flatly someone saying they've been with me a million years and not expecting something like that of me. I don't like being hit in the shins for being myself. Or my age old favorite... The guy who puts in profile that you should not kill him without telling him first: why, who sent you, and what powers you have[metagaming shmuk].

Slaves/related crap. - I do remember a time when it was actually a legitimate sale system of captured people in chat. wtf happened? Now its a cesspool of single use sex drones looking to get their jollies off. No offence but if someone does play a slave its maybe the one place I'd think some expectations should stick(hanging around for a master, seeing your plot through as a slave.)

The Arena. The Mainhall. The... - You get the gist. Rooms are being inducted into the ooc hall of flame. Wtf. IC still exists right? I mean I could honestly care less if the room is flooded with one liners of "zomg u mizzd mi, i swng my swrod @ u 2 keel u!". It still would be a step towards a proper direction IMHO.

Gods. - Trying to negate the right of allowing others to participate their end of freeform should be a restricted meme on the site. The moment someone starts trying to ply someone else and think for them, whats the point of them being here to play? To me its no wonder we have people disgusted enough to leave. May as well let one person just run all the characters uniformly for their need to control things. Inclusive also is the BS about pulling realms over someone to become unilateral in any situation. ; "We're now at the bottom of the ocean Jimmy" --- "But I never consented to a teleport, and I should be allowed to have some say in my character..." --- "Nope. Sorry. Actually... not sorry. I just moved the entire plane of water over your location. Good luck breathing,... and dealing with water elementals that are pissed off. Have a nice death! Bye."

Agreed with all of this.

Pie for Karface.

OHHHH dont even get me started on Glenn Aura! He's so GROSS. JUST GROSS. He never gives up!

I gotta add one more name to this list, though. I wonder who will know what's up:

Icefyre.

[Jason Baane]

Yeah, Icefyre is pretty bad. He's probably the only user on TK to have his own section on Encyclopedia Dramatica, under Dragonmike.

[Soja]

We're all familiar with Icefyre.

Unfortunately.