KEEPCON

[-=Styles=-]

There wouldn't be any fighting? You naturally assume everyone on tK is a gutless nerd?

That's got to be the dumbest thing I've seen anyone say in a long time.

[MadMusician]

For the most part, there are actually many different types of nerds.

Yes, TK does have the gutless nerds. These are the nerds that hang out in places like the LazehLounge, because they would rather just leave/ban rather than have a debate or argument against someone else that might actually have a somewhat logical opinion.

Than there's the spoiled retarded nerds that made D&D 4.0.

But there IS another type of nerd that has been on the rise. These nerds are known to do things such as...

-Carry around considerable amounts of Dakka.
-Ride on MURDER CYCLES and do fucking cool stunts on them.
-Get as drunk as shit before they go to their Shadowrun games.

In other words, yes, the stereotypical nerd is a gutless bumbling sheltered freak that does nothing but watch anime and play D&D, but there are other nerds out there that aren't nearly as visible. The only reason why they're visible on TK is because it's safe to assume everyone on TK is a nerd. If they weren't, they wouldn't be caught dead here.

As for meeting IRL, unless you're REALLY cool with a person, I wouldn't recommend it. But just so you all know, I'm not inclined to attempt to run over anyone who I don't like. If you do, you have serious self control issues, and that's likely not the only issue you have.

Also, if you're a minor, I would keep miles away from these kinds of events, even if they're implied. They sound fun, but can end badly in more ways than one.

And personally, I would keep miles away from any event that's posted on a online forum that is potentially inviting minors.

[Kade]

At first I thought this "Keepcon" nonsense was just a joke.

But now it's really being considered?

No, just no.

... Keepcon is a terrible idea.

Shoot yourself.

Edit: If Keepcon ever did happen, it wouldn't be 'Keepcon.' It'd be a handful of friends, who happen to hang out on TK but in no way represent the entire TK demographic, meeting IRL.

[Devin`Asures]

Are you retarded? Have you heard of these things called "police" that exist in "real life"? I highly doubt any of these skinny nerds are going to get mobbed or lynched. Besides, it's the INTERNET. Anyone willing to cause violence to anyone over a stupid grudge on a chat site where you PLAY PRETEND is a sad, sad individual who will have a fun time getting raped in jail.

Is anyone here like that?

Me. And I'll admit, it takes something on a grand scale to get me angry and even considering violence.

I hate Alliyah, and I don't consider it a stupid grudge, because what she was trying to do and probably is still doing is an actual crime. Alliyah is an intellectual property thief and a plagiarist. Before you guys all go "omg we copy each other and RP characters from tv all the time", you've got to understand the distinction I'm making. Yes, we all might mimic ideas and even go so far as to play characters from games or TV, but Alliyah is stealing the ideas of other people and claiming to use them for commerical purposes.
She claims to be an author in need of ideas (if you're lucky enough for her to tell you that much), and will attempt to question people about their original RP characters, creative ideas, and anything pertaining to the profile of yours she reads and wants to steal.

I was a victim of this once. She asked me questions about my character and my ideas, and at first, didn't tell me what this was for. I assumed it was for something to do with RP, so I didn't give a crap and actually thought the interest in my character was very flattering, but then as I questioned her further, it came out that she was going to use the ideas I gave her for her book. She was very vague and evasive with her answers, and admitted that she often doesn't tell people why she asks them these questions.
I'm aware that lots of people online claim to be 'authors', and Alliyah might not be a real professional author, but that doesn't make what she's doing any better.
I did tell her that I refused to give her permission to use my material in her book, and she said she wasn't going to, but I'm very offended at how deceptive she was about stealing my ideas. If I hadn't pressed her with questions, then she'd never have admitted what she was doing.

Now what's worse is that I'm not the only one she's done this to. Once I spoke up and attacked her, a few other people I RPed with told me that she'd been doing the exact same thing to them, questioning them about their characters and ideas. She told some of them that she was an author looking for ideas for her book, and I hate to think of how many unwitting people she's stolen from already. Again, remember SHE CLAIMS TO BE MAKING MONEY OFF OF THIS. That's why it's so wrong and not just some copy cat on an RP website.

I advise anyone to ignore Alliyah if she asks you questions about your character, and ban her from any of your RP rooms. She used to lurk all the time in rooms where I was playing, and I suspect it was to steal the content of my posts and character ideas as well as other people's.

So yes, I'd happily punch that bitch in the face and then some. I have a huge problem with people trying to steal from me and making money off of it. This is no different than if I stole someone's art image and sold it, claiming that it was my own work. I'm aware that not everyone gets as outraged as I do over these things, but as someone who dabbles in art and puts a lot of effort into their RP, characters, and creative ideas, I'm extremely offended that there's some little bitch out there stealing from people and trying to make money off of it. I feel this way about any intellectual property theft or plagiarist.

SORRY FOR THE DERAILMENT AGAIN ZOMG I'M GETTING GOOD AT OFF TOPIC!

tl:dr Alliyah is an IP thief and Devin would love to punch that bitch in that face, jail or not.

[SilverStreak]

Yes, TK does have the gutless nerds. These are the nerds that hang out in places like the LazehLounge, because they would rather just leave/ban rather than have a debate or argument against someone else that might actually have a somewhat logical opinion.

 

I welcome your intellectual discourse sir. 

[Web Janitor]

Why do people feel the need to interject spiteful commentary into this thread? If people want to meet up, go ahead, let them. It doesn't affect you, and Reddit manages to do it all the time without anyone dying (usually) and they're composed of 50% wingnuts.

[Inquisitor]

This is the worst thread. If you want to meet up, go for it, just saying trying to organize some sort of mass meeting will flop.

[Auvic]

As someone who's gone out and met someone that I'd only ever met on tK, I'm entirely in favor of this.

And so perhaps calling it a 'con' is a bit of a misnomer. Maybe it would be more accurate to name it a 'People From The Keep Get Together' or something, but since that's long and un-catchy, I think people can take their boring nitpicking-ness and shove it.

For logistics, it seems like a bit of difficulty to plan something coherent out, and especially to ensure that it has something to offer for all/any of the people that decide to go. And/or some sort of central location and so forth. But hey, whatever. If Flamme/whomever can get something together, I'd be thrilled to hear about it, unless it's at some point in the future when I have the ability to take time off whenever I damn well please, or something.

[MadMusician]

Yes, TK does have the gutless nerds. These are the nerds that hang out in places like the LazehLounge, because they would rather just leave/ban rather than have a debate or argument against someone else that might actually have a somewhat logical opinion.

 

I welcome your intellectual discourse sir. 

I would be more than happy! However, considering the person and a trend with the person, I won't. Instead, I'll give some life-saving advice instead which is strangely practical to this situation.

Don't run downrange when the guns are hot.

[TheMadHatter]

I want to know when the keep went from a roleplaying chatroom to an eharmony or a place to meet people? I don't understand what is wrong with the level everyone is at just chatting to one another online for fun, roleplaying, then going back to irl when they're done. Why do we want to mix it? Why is there any need to meet one another? Especially when there is already tension between groups and individuals online, let alone offline. It would be awkward and probably cause unnecessary drama.

On a practical note...how can any of you afford to miss work and fly out to another state?! Let alone the hotel cost, the transportation costs, the hall/meeting room cost, food...drinks...etc. If it ends up being at someone's house, then aren't any of you concerned that we'll steal your shit or that we might be psychotic? You really don't know people off the internet. I could be a serial killer for all you know.

Keepcon is silly. Especially if someone actually hosts it from their own house (which I think someone mentioned). Don't open your house up to strangers for the record. If you want to have a group of people over that you know personally then that's up to you.

[Pink]

I want to know when the keep went from a roleplaying chatroom to an eharmony or a place to meet people? I don't understand what is wrong with the level everyone is at just chatting to one another online for fun, roleplaying, then going back to irl when they're done. Why do we want to mix it? Why is there any need to meet one another? Especially when there is already tension between groups and individuals online, let alone offline. It would be awkward and probably cause unnecessary drama.

On a practical note...how can any of you afford to miss work and fly out to another state?! Let alone the hotel cost, the transportation costs, the hall/meeting room cost, food...drinks...etc. If it ends up being at someone's house, then aren't any of you concerned that we'll steal your shit or that we might be psychotic? You really don't know people off the internet. I could be a serial killer for all you know.

Keepcon is silly. Especially if someone actually hosts it from their own house (which I think someone mentioned). Don't open your house up to strangers for the record. If you want to have a group of people over that you know personally then that's up to you.

Stop bitching because you have no friends.
It's not that serious, some of these people are actually quite cool for each other.


I just disagree with the notion of a KeepCON because Cons are hard to organize, and this seems to be pulling from a smaller pool of people.

There really aren't many distinctions between "real life" and the "internet", except what people make of them. Regardless, we're all human beings.

[Inquisitor]

as someone who has met a few people from THE INTERNET

some of them are actually rather cool and interesting people that if not for the big distances IRL I'd probably hang out with them rather then just send a few messages here and there over ims

but i would never want to meet the vast majority of you in person because i'd wager you'd be insufferable in some fashion

[Crysta]

I'm probably gonna invite some Keepsters to my wedding, but I figure like only one or two will be able to make it lol.

But it would still be awesome. And not happening for awhile.

[Inquisitor]

that's terribly nerdy

[Kade]

Stop bitching because you have no friends.

Uncalled for.

Negative pie. D:

[Inquisitor]

Stop bitching because you have no friends.

Uncalled for.

Negative pie. D:

I'm pretty sure you're the only one who's managed to rack up a higher neg count then me

[Devin`Asures]

It sounds like a lot of people are against the 'convention' idea because it seems hard to organize and there won't be many people.
I wasn't thinking of this "Keepcon" like a convention despite the name. It sounds more like a small get together of internet friends, which could be pretty cool.

I've never been to any sort of "con" (I just don't do that stuff), so maybe that's why I'm a bit naieve about all this.

I still think the idea is fun, but with everyone's bitching, maybe "Keepcon" should have been a private affair between the dude who started this thread and his friends who are keen. It's kind of silly that there's so much naysaying from the people who probably wouldn't attend anyway because it'd have nothing to do with them in the end (because they wouldn't even be there).

[TheMadHatter]

I want to know when the keep went from a roleplaying chatroom to an eharmony or a place to meet people? I don't understand what is wrong with the level everyone is at just chatting to one another online for fun, roleplaying, then going back to irl when they're done. Why do we want to mix it? Why is there any need to meet one another? Especially when there is already tension between groups and individuals online, let alone offline. It would be awkward and probably cause unnecessary drama.

On a practical note...how can any of you afford to miss work and fly out to another state?! Let alone the hotel cost, the transportation costs, the hall/meeting room cost, food...drinks...etc. If it ends up being at someone's house, then aren't any of you concerned that we'll steal your shit or that we might be psychotic? You really don't know people off the internet. I could be a serial killer for all you know.

Keepcon is silly. Especially if someone actually hosts it from their own house (which I think someone mentioned). Don't open your house up to strangers for the record. If you want to have a group of people over that you know personally then that's up to you.

Stop bitching because you have no friends.
It's not that serious, some of these people are actually quite cool for each other.


I just disagree with the notion of a KeepCON because Cons are hard to organize, and this seems to be pulling from a smaller pool of people.

There really aren't many distinctions between "real life" and the "internet", except what people make of them. Regardless, we're all human beings.

I believe Noire is very serious about having a Keepcon, or to get together with the Arena folk. So I made a serious comment. To be honest, I don't have any grudges against anyone and I really don't have any issues with any of you. But there really isn't anything wrong with a little privacy, and the preference to keep online and irl separate.

[Inquisitor]

Your hilarious "Don't talk to strangers because they might be murderers" approach is pretty laughable. But I still wouldn't go to Omaha to hang out with a bunch of nerds. At least if people come by me I can just hop on a train and disappear again

[Auvic]

I believe Noire is very serious about having a Keepcon, or to get together with the Arena folk. So I made a serious comment. To be honest, I don't have any grudges against anyone and I really don't have any issues with any of you. But there really isn't anything wrong with a little privacy, and the preference to keep online and irl separate.

So then, here's the question. If he wants to have a get-together that consists mainly of Arena folk, or people that know him ( since, presumably, it'd be sort of awkward to show up at a gathering and not really know anyone there ) that's entirely his business, right?

Similarly, whether you have any grudges or issues with anyone, that's entirely your business. And it's also your business about whether or not you want to keep your irl and online experiences separate.

If Flamme wants to meet up with people irl that he met online, that's his prerogative. I fail to see what your opinion ( since it'd mean you wouldn't want to come anyway ) would have to do with any of this, really.
It's like saying, "Hey. I live in Las Vegas, and I wouldn't want to go to New York to celebrate the New Years anyway, but I just wanted to say that having Lil' Wayne perform at the celebration is really stupid and I wouldn't do it." You're welcome to your opinion, and you're free to say it as you will, but isn't it a little silly to spend your spare time criticizing something that you don't want to have anything to do with anyway?

( And yes, I realize that last sentence applies to pretty much every discussion about online drama, too. Hypocrisy doesn't, however, in and of itself make a point moot. )

[Ross]

lol @ anyone trying to lynch me

This is too silly. dan. You're too silly.

[Savon]

I like the idea of a keepcon,  it being a social gathering of people from the keep, from all kinds of rooms on  the keep.  So yeah.. someone from the Arena started the idea.  But there are few of us out here that hang in the Arena AND the Lobby and sometimes the MH.. so.. you come to meet people.. you don't have to buddy buddy up to the ones you dont like.  Just be polite and move on to talk to those you do like.  It could be like a big family picnic.   Bring games and snack.  Or someone could have it at their house.   I have a pretty big one that by next summer could sleep quite a few. 
Ive met a few people from the keep and they all were okay or pretty cool.   If you are a private person and this does interest you, then don't come.  But you don't have to bash the idea down just because YOU don't want to go.

So.. for whoever organizes it.  I can help, would love to go... and if needed, would host it at my house.

[Eibon]

I'm so there.

[Frown-chan]

I'd go. And I think the people starting their posts off with comments like "THIS IS STUPID LOLOL" are jerks with no lives. Seriously, no one said you HAVE to go, I don't understand what the point is in interrupting and derailing a thread with your snide comments when you probably wouldn't be going anyway.

As for the idea of it being a "con," it's actually not as hard as you think to organize. Get maybe ten people together who are willing to put in money and you can easily rent out a small banquet hall, get catering, bring board games and card games to play, etc. it's really not that difficult (I've been involved in the planning of events that have over five-thousand participants, thirty people would be easy as hell to get a 'con' together for if you know what you're doing)

Anyway, Flamme, I support the idea. I dunno if I'll have the money or the time to go, but if I do, I definitely will.  As for everyone else, keep your asinine bullshit to yourselves. Telling someone to shoot themselves because they want to hang out with people is pretty fucked up, Kade, and Pink? You're a two-faced, retarded cunt and I'm willing to bet Hatter has more friends than you, too. I find it sad that you only talk shit on the forum when Inquisitor's fat ass is here to back you up. Also Inquisitor, you're just gay. I can't even describe how ridiculous the things you've said in this thread are. "lol ur all insufferable lol" Really? Arrogant jackasses are harder to be around than any other kind of jackass and you fit the bill, you goddamn hypocrite.

Hatter, nobody from tK is a serial killer, and even if they were, I doubt they'd be able to start murdering people at an event in Nebraska, which is a state where you can openly carry a gun on your hip without a license. As for everyone talking about people fighting, REALLY? I think most of the people I've met on tK have enough common sense to not get into fistfights over petty shit they don't even think about when they're not at their computer desks.

tl;dr: Everybody shut the fuck up and stop derailing the goddamn thread. Peace.

[Silent.Kamikaze]

I like the idea of a keepcon,  it being a social gathering of people from the keep, from all kinds of rooms on  the keep.  So yeah.. someone from the Arena started the idea.  But there are few of us out here that hang in the Arena AND the Lobby and sometimes the MH.. so.. you come to meet people.. you don't have to buddy buddy up to the ones you dont like.  Just be polite and move on to talk to those you do like.  It could be like a big family picnic.   Bring games and snack.  Or someone could have it at their house.   I have a pretty big one that by next summer could sleep quite a few. 
Ive met a few people from the keep and they all were okay or pretty cool.   If you are a private person and this does interest you, then don't come.  But you don't have to bash the idea down just because YOU don't want to go.

So.. for whoever organizes it.  I can help, would love to go... and if needed, would host it at my house.

I would do things. To your house.