The Pull List((POSSIBLE SPOILERS))

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He's Gorilla Grodd, a super intelligent ape super villian who lives in Africa, from a city of super intelligent apes that is in Africa, and they're all long time Flash mainstays. Where is he gonna take over, the South Pole? Who's he gonna fight? Batwing? He has one brief apearance in Batman Inc, would anyone care if Grodd pulled his head and limbs off like he did Congilla ?

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I'm gonna have a little fun, for me at least and make my predictions for the 52 titles being relaunched in Sept by DC. Keeping in mind that there's rumors and a good posibility that all these books will be given a 12 issue/1 year minimum to sink or swim.

In the order they're in from the link I posted earlier, and I'll break them down to book groups per post, the Justice League books in this one for example to keep the posts from being huge.

Justice League 1- I think this one is a no-brainer sucess, with the star creative staff and the orignal big seven line up it just can't lose. 12 issues easy, and with the same creative team,and lineup I can see it going for a very long run, tripple didgits.

Justice League International- Feeding off a combination of things, including the sucess of Generation Lost that featured most of the lineup, the popularity of the old JLI book back in the day, and it being a home for some of the 2nd and 3rd tier characters so popular but not popular enough for thier own book or the main JLA book, I'll go with at least 50 issues.

Justice League Dark- I think this will be one too many Justice Leauge books all at once. it sounds like a good idea on papare and has some fan favourite characters and a solid creatice team, but I still say it barely makes it past the 1 year 12 issue minimum.

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For books that don't belong to any paticular group or are just single character titles I think I'll break them down in groups of 5 or so per post from now on.

Aquaman- It's got a lot going for it. Fans have been screaming for him back in his own books since the last one ended, and Johns is writing it. If he has anywhere near the sucess he did with Green Lantern we could see a solid 50+ issue run easy.

Wonder Woman- This one is a head scratcher for me, it's the writer famous for 100 Bullets doing a traditional superhero comic. it might surprise me but the match just seems really off, and Wonder Woman has been the center of more than one retcon/relaunch shitstorm already in fairly recent comic history. I give it about a year and ahalf 18ish  issues before she is again.

The Flash-His current book struggled even with Johns on it to start out, unless they bring Wally and or Bart back I don't think even the Fastest Man Alive can outrun the poor sales cutoff point for more than 24 issues.

Captian Atom- I like Kruel, think he's one of the undersung talents DC has had for a while now. Captian Atom has newfound popularity from his part in the Generation Lost title and if this book is even decent to emdiocre it'll carry around the 36 issue three year range.

The Fury of Firestorm- This character carried a solid run in his oringal series, was one of the hottest properties of the late 80s into the 90s. n the other hand, after seeing previus work on books like Birds of Prey and Seceret Six it seems like another odd couling for Gail Simone. Still after his return as part of Brithest Day I think he's got a solid 50 issue run .

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 Green Arrow- J.T Krul is back on it with the relaunch, and now that the book isn't bogged down by being tied into and paced along with Brightest Day after the relaunch i think he's gonna shine with it . Green Arrow's old book carried a solid auidience before a rotating creative crew and some really strange /poor story telling decissions it slumped off badly, before Krul got it up and running again. I think this means he'll be on a shorter leash with the readers to make them love GA again that some of the other Big Character books, I give it a conservative 25 issues.

The SAavage Hawkman- One of the books I'm most excited about, and a character much like Aquaman that people have screamed to get his own book again. I like the creative team fairly well from thier collective past work and anyone was a sigh of relief from the orignally announced James Robinson as the writer of this book.  I give it a good 3 year 36 issue run right off the bat, and hopefully more.

Mr Terrific- I hate to say it, but as interesting as a character and book this could be I think the backlash and outrage from the JSA not being included in the reboot in thier own book is going to hurt this one. I give it the bare minimum of the 1 year 12 issue run unless it just shocks and awes the comic woreading world somehow.
DC UNIVERSE PRESENTS - This is another book I'm excited about but torn over at the same time. I think a book with rotating arcs featuring diffrent characters and creative teams is a great idea. It's got a lot of things going for it like easily collecting each arc of 5-6 issues in trade format, and showcasing lesser known characters and creative talents. Unfortuantly, it's been a loooooooooong time since this type of anthology format book has done well in comics. I'll give it an optimistic 2 year 24 issue run and see where it goes.

Gonna cut off her and pick up next post with the Superbook group.

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The Superbook group.

Action Comics- I think this is another can't fail. It's a lynchpin/corner stone title for DC, along with a few other long running ones. And it has Grant Morrison, and Superman.
Honestly I think even after he leaves the book could be doin abysmal in sales and DC will keep it on life support. The only downside is the huge negative feed back on it being included in the re-numbering right after hitting issue 900 by comic fans. I say don't worry it'll be around 10+yrs down the road if DC printed comics are still around at all, and you'll see the 1,000th issue on the cover when it comes time.

Superman 1- It has a powerhouse creative team behind it, and being Superman DC is gonna give it all the rope it needs to hang itself and then some before they even think of canceling a big red S book. Just like Action, as long as there's a DC there'll be Superman.

Superboy- In the orignal series this book flew off the shelf. The character has a huge fanbase, but if the writing and art isn't there, then the sales won't be there and there's always the other Super books and or Teen Titans for him to call home. Name alone carries it at least 2 years 24 issue regardless of quality.

Supergirl- The current book is hugely popular, and considering it's one of the few single female focused books in the reboot/launch, I think it should do just fine. On the other hand much like Superboy, if it;'s week there's other S books or teams books to keep the character in the minds of readers. Either way it gets 2 yars 24 issues minimum just like it's male counterpart.
Next up, the bat book group ...

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The Bat Books Group. Eleven books. Wow,DC. I'm gonna split them between two posts.

Batman 1- The name says it all, and it's got a good solid creative team behind it too not that it matters. Much like Action and Superman, DC ain't gonna let anything happen to this . I give it tripple didgets, 100 + easy.

Detective Comics 1- More of the same, a batcore of probably at least 5 is gonna do just fine. Wich five is the question. Detective will roll right along like Action. It makes it at the very least to the special orignal numbering 900th issue, wich is about 120 ten years down the road, another as long as there's DC there'll be Detective .

Batwing 1- This is the most likey batbook to fail first. I don't think it matters how good the story is, how amazing the art might be, it's gonna get quickly lost in the shuffle of 11 bat titles.

The Dark Knight- I think this one depends on if David Finch can keep it on anything close to scheudle, wich he hasn't been able to do in the pre-reboot version at all. But he and it have been popular, and if he can it'll go strong. 50+iissues if he can, and even if he can't keep up it'll go 24 and with him that's the same time period another book would be hitting 50.

Batman and Robin- The current title is hotter than Georgia in July, and tomasi is one of DC's under rated talents. He's slwoly but surely beicoming along with Finch on Detective the more popular Bat writers than Morrison or Finch. 50+ issues and probably way more.
Finish the Batpbooks in the second post next.

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Batbooks Pt 2

Batgirl 1- Barbra Gordon fans got thier wish, she's back in the suit. That alone will keep this book on the shelf for the very least 2 years 24 issues.

Batwoman 1- This book on the other hand, might struggle. it was rumored for release months ago, pre-reboot and has never came about. They even put previews in other books to hype it. That's not a good sign, while the character carried a very brief run on a pre-established title she has yet to carry her own, and I don't know if she can, once you get past the "OMG she's a lesbian" craze, I've not heard a lot about her at all, good or bad. That's another bad sign when the only thing comic book fans seems to know about a character is her orintation. I'll give it a optimistic 2 years 24 issues.

Nightwing 1- Dick grayson fans can't have him as batman they'll settle for him as Nightwing again, he carried his own book, and a good one well past the 100 issue mark before, and I'll give him at the very least a very conservative  conservative 50+

Catwoman 1- She carried her own book up around 1oo issues the first time around, but that's been awhile now. Good creative team could make it work, but unless it does well right out of the gat and continues to do so I can see her getting suffled off to the other batbooks as a supporting cast tupe and this book going away. On the other hand she's another of the handful of solo female characteters in her own boook in the relaunch so I'll give it a optimistic 24 issues and 2 years.
Birds of Prey- This book has a strange cult following that keeps it alive when other, better books go under. I give it a 2 year 24 issue run on that alone, but not much past that before it folds and the characters get shuffled into other titles.

Red Hood and The Outlaws- This book seems like almost an after thought to throw characters they wanted to keep around in, or to fill out the magical number of 52. And Jude Winnick isn't the most popular writer in the DC stable these days. Not that I have anything against him myself, but I think it barely lasts the minimum 12 issues, I give it 18 tops.

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The Green Lantern book group

Green Lantern 1- Johns on it, movie just came out, nuff said. It goes 50 plus issues if they let a monkey stick a crayon up it's butt to draw it and a brain damamged clown fish writes it .

Green Lantern Corps1- Pretty much the same thing. DC has even said that the GL and Batbooks will be the least changed and effected by the reboot. 50+issues easy

Green Lantern-New Guardians 1- While being a GL book will get it so far, I think the rainbow corps ideas and arc is starting to lose steam, even the writers that have been on it from day 1 seem to be less inspired and enthused with it than they where a year ago. I give it 24 issues and 2 years before it runs it's course and something new takes it's place.

Red Lanterns 1- This might be overkill, even for a GL book . Like I said the color code corps is starting to wear thin, time to move on and away from it. I give it the minimum 12 issues and a year and done.

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Ok, gonna cover the new/new old horror titles this time around. I already covered JLA Dark under the Justice Leauge books so I won't bother to repeat it with these.

Swamp Thing- With his return in Brightest Day, along with John Constatine the DC is gonna work to keep this one going . If the creative crew does well, they won't have to. The character has a huge following, and did very well for a long time in his own book both as part of DC and Vertigo even after Alan Moore was.....well he was Alan Moore about it . Nuff said there. I give it a very least 36 issue 3 years.

Animal Man 1- This one is iffy to me, the premise is interesting, but it's either gonna be real good or real bad. The only time the character carried a book well on his own was under Morrsion. And if it doesn't do well there's always team books to stick Buddy boy in so I go with 18 issues for it .

Frankienstein Agent of Shade- I really like this character, and I really hope this book takes off. I think there's a strong audience out there for non traditional non superhero books, Bertigo showes us this for years. With even a decent creative team effort I think it goes at least 24 issues. A slpeeper surprise hit that might go a lot longer .


I, Vampire 1- An obscure character from distant DC past, wit a writer I can't place at all, UI dunno what DC is thinking with this one, are they trying to get the twilight crowd? i give it the 12 issue 1 year minimum.

Ressurection Man 1- This is gonna be another sleeper hit, I think. Both the character and the creative team have a strong following amongst DC fans and combined I think we see a surprising 24+ issues at least.
 Demon Knights 1- I think this book sounds really intersting and could fill a classic fanttasy niche for DC, but with an obscure character cast and setting, and a med level creative team it has its' work cut out for it. I hope it gets over the initial poor sells hump after a year or so, word of mouth keeps it around and we see 24+ for it .

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The Wildstorm books that are included in the relaunch this post go around.

Storm Watch- This book has been at both ends of the spectrum in it's previous incarnations. It was one of the best selling books on the shelf at a time, and it was just another book on the shelf at times, depending on the creative team, especially the writer. Let's face it, the announced team isn't Ellis, not even close. On the other hand it still has a hardcore fan base, and with the adition of the Martian Manhunter, a character with his own cult following as well as ties to the Justice League books rumored for it, it could surprise everyone. I'll guess high and say 36 issues at least

Voodoo 1- This is an obscure character, and a mid level lesser known creative team behind it . I think ultra edgy violent books like this one is hinting to be had thier day, and that day is past. The one thing it like other books I mentioned has going for it is a being one of a handful of female main character titles , wich I think carries it for 24 issues, but not much past that 2 year run.

Grifter 1- See above about the ultra edgy violent era of comics being come and gone. Grifter never carried his own title other than perhaps a short lived mini series or one sots when he was at the height of his and those kinds of books popularity , what makes DC think he will or can now? I'll be very shocked if it makes it past the  1year 12 issue minimum.

Deathstroke 1- He had his own book befoe, if I recall it ran somewhere around the 50-75 issues mark, not got anything to check it with in front of me, too lazy to open another window. Like Grifter, I think these ultra gritty books have run thier course but Deadpool proves me wrong to an extent I suppose. On the other hand the orignal ultra violent gritty anti hero Frank Castle has a hard time keeping a book on the shevles lately.  land, unlike rifter Deathstroke is a lot more well known and has his own core of fans, I give it 36 issues three years
Suicide Squad 1- This book has two predocessor books, the orignal by the same title and Seceret Six wich was it by another title to support the idea it will do well. I think those books fans will carry this book to an extnet, and depending on the team roster and the creative directions and teams it could do very well. I give it 2 years 24 issues at least.

OMAC 1- The only thing that will keep this book on the shelf ofr the minumum 1 year 12 issues is Dan Didio hacving some editorial /powers that be stroke. he's used it to keep a miserable Outsiders book he writes going for months after sales said it should be canceld . if it makes it past 1 year and 12 issues, if it isn't the first tilte to go under I'll be surprised, the only other strong contenders are Red Hood and the Outlaws, and Batwing to go before it

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Ok, getting tired I'll finish up the last handful of titles tomorrow. Before I go for the night I wanted to adress. clarify some issues with what I'm doing here.

This is pure speculation /prediction on my part. I know I'm gonna get some if not most wrong, and there will be some that surprise me in both ways, lasting longer than I thought and going under much quicker than I though. That's kind of the fun of it though, going with my gut feeling and seeing how many I nail.

I tried to keep numbers to years and half years in issues . 1 year =12 issues 2=24 , and 18 = 1 1/2 years and so forth and so on just for simplicity's sake. I do believe the 1 year minimum on titles rumors though, I don't think it would make much buisness sense for DC to bother including a book for a shorter run than that, or letting a poorly selling one go much futher than that.

Last but not least, I don't mean that the large number of books I predicted not to last long means I don't think the re-boot/launch will suceed over all, quite the opposite I hope it does. I do believe however the first year or so will be a  trial and error like period, and for every title we see canceled we'll see one or more new titles take thier place.
 Also I believe there's already been at least strong rumors there will be more than the original 52 books released after September to begin with.

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He's Gorilla Grodd, a super intelligent ape super villian who lives in Africa, from a city of super intelligent apes that is in Africa, and they're all long time Flash mainstays. Where is he gonna take over, the South Pole? Who's he gonna fight? Batwing? He has one brief apearance in Batman Inc, would anyone care if Grodd pulled his head and limbs off like he did Congilla ?

It's not about how those things are in Africa or that the events of this comic happened there, it's about how there's nothing there but that and child soldiers. That's modern DC's Africa. Gorillas and dead kids. Because there's nothing cool about Africa, no mythology or folklore to draw upon and it's one giant monolithic state, not a collection of individual, very distinct countries. I mean damn, at least John Ostrander's Firestorm comics used the Yoruba Orisha mythology back in the day.

And yes, it would have been cool to see him fight a bunch of superheroes from Côte d'Ivoire or Benin or somewhere. That would have taken effort and someone reading a wikipedia article, so he just kills Congorilla, a character not even James Robinson cares about. That's the great defender of an entire continent. A great white hunter who turns into a magic golden ape.

Also Diver you know no one (not even me) is reading this thread right?

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It's not about how those things are in Africa or that the events of this comic happened there, it's about how there's nothing there but that and child soldiers. That's modern DC's Africa. Gorillas and dead kids. Because there's nothing cool about Africa, no mythology or folklore to draw upon and it's one giant monolithic state, not a collection of individual, very distinct countries. I mean damn, at least John Ostrander's Firestorm comics used the Yoruba Orisha mythology back in the day.

Firestorm was a series, not a one shot. You obviously expect a lot more from a one shot than, or I think most people do.

And yes, it would have been cool to see him fight a bunch of superheroes from Côte d'Ivoire or Benin or somewhere. That would have taken effort and someone reading a wikipedia article, so he just kills Congorilla, a character not even James Robinson cares about. That's the great defender of an entire continent. A great white hunter who turns into a magic golden ape.

So he should have slaughtered a bunch of C list heros instead of just one? How is that better?

The book only got included because he's a Flash villian and it's a Flash centered event, not to mention the entire DC verse is getting rebooted/relaunched whatever you want to call it in two months. They're not gonna devote a lot of effort into a one shot under those circumstance, but I don't think they intended it as a racil slur on Africa either.

And apparently someone has not read this thread 721 times. Most just have nothing to say apparently.

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Alright, time to finish up the predictions for the 52 titles coming out in Sept.

Blackhawks 1-/Men of War 1-I'm gonna do something a little diffrent on these two. I want both to make it, I wish both would make it but I think one is the magic number for this type of book. I wish they'd packaged the two titles together in a dual book, possibly alternate the two between the main feature and the backup story in the same book, or have a war Anthology book including these two as well as Haunted Tank and Unknown Soldier. Possibly release it as a bi-montly or even quarterly book and make it an extra sized book  for an extra buck per issue, I think it would work better than trying to run two books that apear to be VERY simular in themes and content. So my prediction is one makes it and probably sticks around as the war comic, and one doesn't last past the 12 issue one year mnimum, I'm hoping Men of War with Sgt Rock's grandson will be the one that makes it .

All Star Westerns 1- You might as well call this book Johnah Hex, sure it's gonna have backup stories with other western characters, but it's a Johnah Hex book. And the current Johnah Hex book has proven itself a survivor, staying just above the cancelation line for months if not years now. It has a hardcore folliwing that I think will pick it back up after the reboot, I give it another strong 50+ issue run at least.

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Ok, last five books.

Teen Titans- On one hand, TT is one of those books that finds a way to stick around. It's been one of the best books on the shelf and it's been one of the worst, but it was still on the shelf. On the other hand, it looks like these characters have been changed the most drastically from the current and past versions, wich might alienate a lot of longtime fans. I give it a 2 year 24 issue run to either sink or swim with this new direction.

Statick Shock- This character has thrived on cartoon based popularity and his connection with the Teen Titans book recently, there's been a huge outcry for him to get his own title again for a while now, and here it is.  If it's even decent it makes it two years and 24 issues, if it's good it could go a lot futher.

 Hawk And Dove 1- Another case of semi popular characters with strong ties to the Teeen Titans mythos and new found popularity through Brightest Day. BUT there's a couple reasons I doubt they can carry thier own book. The lesser reason being, they're still fairly unknown to younger or new readers, and they're not the orignal version of the characters that older readers are so attached to. The main reason I see the book struggling is the artist Leiefeld. He's more notorious than David Flinch  for falling behind schedule on books and has a bit of a reputation for less than sterling ethics and behaviour in the comic book buisness and with the fans in the past. If he can keep the book regular and the writers can keep it interesting, it has a slight chance of sucess, but I think it's another 1 year 12 issue and over book.

Blue Beetle 1- This character has the same cartoon and Teen titan conections and support that Statick Shock has, AND he seems to be a favourite with Geoff Johns and Dan Didio foreither those or other reasons noone is sure about. His own book stayed on the shelf the first run for 25ish issues, despite having sales less than some other books that got the axe, and as soon as his own book got canceled he got added to the Teen Titans and made a backup feature in Booster Gold's book.I think the book will be given every chance and last at least two years and another 24-5ish run regardless.

Legion of Superheros 1- The LoSH is one of those books much like Teen Titans that seems to never die. It's been a top saler and a bottom feeder, but it keeps coming back after being re-launched and canceled repeatedly. This time it also keeps the man who is widely considered THE writer for this book, his runs on it in the past being hugely popular. I give it 3 years 36 issues easy, and possibly being one of the books around for the long haul.

Legion Lost_ This seems to be almost a rehasing of a story that's already been done with just a slightly diffrent spin on it this time. Unfortuantly, I doubt it will ever be as well recieved as the orignal by levitz, and while it might survive on name alone for a year, I doubt it makes it two. The only chance I give it is if somewhere along the way it turns into something close to the current REBELS books wich was highly popular with a medium sized group of  the fans, and even it suffered in sales and got canceled recently.Even if they go this route unfortuantly I think it  loses steam somewhere between the first year and the second, ending around the 1 1/2 18 issue point.

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Firestorm was a series, not a one shot. You obviously expect a lot more from a one shot than, or I think most people do.

I don't think not doing some old ass Dark Continent shit would have taken that much effort.

So he should have slaughtered a bunch of C list heros instead of just one? How is that better?

Not slaughtered, fought against. Would have been a cool opportunity to introduce some characters who could have been in the reboot. DC did say they wanted to more diverse this time around. Oh well, opportunity missed. Hell, why not re-introduce Dr. Mist? He kicks ass.

The book only got included because he's a Flash villian and it's a Flash centered event, not to mention the entire DC verse is getting rebooted/relaunched whatever you want to call it in two months. They're not gonna devote a lot of effort into a one shot under those circumstance, but I don't think they intended it as a racil slur on Africa either.

I don't think it was a conscious effort to slur anyone either, just some dumb shit that wasn't given an ounce of thought.

And apparently someone has not read this thread 721 times. Most just have nothing to say apparently.

Who would?

Also, the original Legion Lost was by Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning.

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Not slaughtered, fought against. Would have been a cool opportunity to introduce some characters who could have been in the reboot. DC did say they wanted to more diverse this time around. Oh well, opportunity missed. Hell, why not re-introduce Dr. Mist? He kicks ass


 DC did say they wanted to more diverse this time around


I think the diversity thing might have been talking about in types of books and characters, not so much ethnic or social groups. We're seeing a return of non-traditional superhero comics such as horror, western and war as well as quite a few B and even C list heros getting solo books, characters that never did or would in the presant DC. OMAC, Mr Terriffic and Hawk And Dove for example.
Now it's just a matter of time and seeing if these diverse books sale like the mainstream big name characters and books.


As far as the Gorilla Grodd thing goes, I think we're the only two people on the internet or anywhere else still talking about the book. In a few months the contents, call them terrible as you do or just subpar as I do won't matter and in a year or two I doubt anyone will remember it at all, ven as part of FlashPoint unless Grodd turns up to play a much bigger role in the core series. It was a throwaway comic, never ment to be more or less in my opinion.

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I keep reading this thread. Sorry. :/

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http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/06/24/gene-colan-1926-2011/

While perhaps not quite a legend, another comic great has left us.

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http://www.newsarama.com/topic/dcnu-revamp-news-previews-and-interviews

More previews of art, mostly if not all covers for the re-launch and some interviews about the books coming out.

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http://dcu.blog.dccomics.com/2011/06/24/gene-colan-1926-2011/

While perhaps not quite a legend, another comic great has left us.

Gene Colan was one of the best, especially in the horror department. Dude created Blade for god's sake.


http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2011/06/24/friday-with-a-master/




RIP Gene.

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The only reason I said he wasn't quite a legend, is when I think legend I think almost if not house hold names.  Names like Stan Lee, Jack Kirby, Gardner Fox, Roy Thomas.

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Ok, since it took me untill now to get my books for LAST week, and the books for THIS week come out tomorrow, I'll try and keep it short and sweet THIS week.

In no paticular order....

Justice League of America 58- Part five of the Rise of Eclipso story line/arc.

Not great by any means, better than some past issues Robinson has put on us. Big epic fights, golden gorillas with sniper rifles and The Atom walking around inside Shade's brain with Starman trying to free him and by proxy all the other "shadowed" heros and creatures from Eclipso. Those where the good parts,  Dick Grayson's and Eclipo's dioluge where the bad parts. Also, apparently this entire issue takes place in a matter of minutes, an hour tops cause the Moon is ripped in half, and while we see what this does on Earth, the world hasn't ended yet. Also for the big cliff hanger, after we hear Saint Walker say that Donna Troy is the key to beating Eclipso, we see him gut her on the last page, apparently killing her. Plan B?


The Mighty Thor-Issue 3. We see an almost fight between Thor and Silver Surfer, only to have Odin shout them down, then shout some more at Surger, then all of a sudden the asgardians need space armor, and make it in a day. And then kid loki sneaks in on naked Siff to cut a lock of her hair, ends with Asgaridans flying to the moon to face galactus. Also promises a fight between Thor and Surfer again next issue, hope it;s better than this one.
This was the best issue so far , wich isn't saying much out of three whole issues, but it still just doesn't feel like Thor to me, sorry Matt Faction and fans.

Green Arrow- Issue 13. Pretty much a throw away issue, but a lot of DC books between now and September are gonna be like that. It kicked off an arc that puts Ollie up against a crazy bigot preacher so it wasn't too bad. Like dthe innder dialouge of Ollie remembering using cadivers  in the morgue for targer practice when he started out to show himself what an arrow really does to the human body. Looks like a decent begining of what will be the last three issue run in this book.


Action Comics -Issue 902. Continueing the Reign of the Doomsdays arc, this was a dencent all out action fight fest with tSuperman and the extended Super Family against Doomslayer and his Doomsday Clones.  Not much more to say other than the fight carries over to next issue .

The Search FOr Swamp Thing 1 of 3. This  mini series is kind of on the fence for me. it would have been nice to see Brightest Day wrap up in the pages of Brightest dDau but now we get another mini. On the other hand it has John Constatine and Batman not to mention Zatanna in the same book. Apparently, Swapm Thing and Alec Holland have returned seperate instead of sharing a consiousness, and this is a bad thing. After Swampthing attacks Constatine he looks to Batman to help him find either Swampy or Alec, and Zatanna ends up saving them both more or less. Not good not bad, had a cool "You don't mess with Alfred" scene from batman, but both him and John seemed to be almost  characters of themssleves, could have been done a lot better .

Batman and the Outsiders 40. Last Issue of the series, wich was being canceled even before Flashpoint and the reluanch/boot in Spet was announced.  Defiantly the worst comic of the week, possibly in the top five worst I've ever read. More or less after several issues of the team splitting and fighting each other and a bunch of fairly D list villians and what not, Batman shows up tells everyone to get on the plane they're going home, and Geo-Force crosses his arms and says "No don't gotta " so they leave him behind to do....who knows/while everyone else flies back to the US to do not even Batman knows cause ... The series is over.




 

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And now, seperately wich I might do from now on to keep posts shorter, the Flashpoint books for the week. I have to say, over all the Flash Point Mini-Series books are really hit or miss, really good or really bad this week, no middle ground.


Reverse Flash 1 of 3- This was a yawner, it pretty much retold a bunch of stuff we already knew from past Flash and Flashpoint books about Reverse Flash's origin and how he messed with Flash's past in the past.....


Kid Flash Lost 1 of 3- Not as bad AS Reverse Flash, it shows us young Bart trapped in a virtural reality prison where he figures this out because Grandpa Flash is mean to him, only to wake, escape and find himself in apparently the 31st Flashpoint century where him and a female version of Hot Pursuit, revelealed to be the woman that Reverse Flash killed in the regular DC universe in the last issue of Flash's own book are captives on a world ruled by Brainiac. To make things worse, Bart is cut off from the SPeed Force, pwoerless and dying from it apparently, as the last page shows.

The Outsider 1 of 3. This was an interesting issue that was part origin of the Outsider in Flashpoint, and part showing just how badass he is. He's an Indonesian orphan who apparently caused not only his mother's death but a sink whole that destroyed his entire village upoin birth, leaving him the only survivor. He runs away from an oorphanage at the axe of six, and when we next see him full grown, he's a buisness man first and supervillian second, and apaprently oen of the best at both in the world. He also seems to be able to take almost anything, including everything that Flash Point's version of Mr and Ms Terrific and the Japanese super hero Rising Sun, all of whome he apparently framed some time in the past, and now has killed with very little effort on his part could throw at him. He's pretty much the Lex Luthor of Flash Point so far and has super powers to boot, and someone is out to get him, wich according to him is a long list of both villains and heros for suspects. I liked it a lot.


Lois Lane and the Resistance 1 of 3.  This one was pretty good too, Losi is in France covering a fashion show when Aquaman and Atlantis decide to sink most of Eourpe, in thier war with the Amazons.  After seeing a young Jimmy Olsen die saving others, she finds in his camera that he's an undercover agent for Cyborg and the US against the Amazons and the Atlantians, and take his place.  "Rescued " by the Amazons she''s taken first to a consentration camp, then offered to be trained as an Anazon, a process that has a high mortality rate, while reporting on all of this to Cuyborg. While attempting to flee the Amazons, she;s rescued by someone called Penny Black possibly the Flashpoint version of Manchester Black or his sister. Of course no sooner than that happens, than her rescuer takes an arrow in the shoulder, and they find themselves surround by the Furies, who count amonst thier numbers Artemis and Hawkgirl....pretty solid I thought.

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As usual, the universe is conspiring against me and me getting my comics in a timely manner. I might make it Monday, if the shop is even open on the 4th. If not Tuesday.

Anyone else read anything?